Thursday, September 6, 2012

Right to Arm Bears

Dear R.V. Shrink:
My wife and I travel full-time a bit differently than most people you write about. We have a motorhome and we live most of the year in National Parks. We spend more nights sleeping on the ground than in our rig because we are backpackers. We usually hike a week at a time in some of the most extraordinary landscapes on the planet. My reason for writing is in reference to a question you had on carrying a weapon while traveling. We are not anti-gun, but now that people can carry weapons in the National Parks it makes me a bit uneasy. Not so much that they will use the weapon on us, but the fact that they may shoot and wound a large animal that we will run into next. I know you are a backpacker and I am wondering about your take on this issue.
--Not packin packer in Pocatello

Dear Pocatpacker:
I don't like it at all. I am not anti-gun but I am definitely anti-gun in the National Park backcountry. Since that legislation was shoe-horned in with the Credit Card bill, I run into many hikers packin a pop gun (45) that they think will stop a grizzly in his tracks. I always stop and say, "You know the rule, right?" They say, "There's no rule." I tell them there is. The rule is you save that last bullet for yourself because the first volley isn't going to stop that bear. I actually get a laugh when I see people who consider themselves light-weight backpackers. They measure every ounce they carry, then add two pounds of guns and ammo. I think if you are that afraid of what might eat you in the backcountry you should just stay in the front country where you may actually need a gun. They taught me about fire-superiority in the Marines. I guess that means I would have to carry a weapon in the backcountry if I was concerned I might run into bad people with good guns. I do not choose to do that. It has become a problem for the Park Service also. Front country rangers are well-trained in law enforcement. Now it is becoming necessary for the Park Service to train backcountry rangers in the same way, as more hikers are carrying weapons. I know this will bring me a lot of comments. Just let me say, I do support the right to arm bears.  I prefer to carry bear spray. I also plan to do something most people do not do after they spend fifty bucks on a can of bear spray. I actually read the instructions. I run into so many people in Glacier National Park every year carrying expensive bear spray and they don't even know how to release the safety. I have only used my bear spray once. I accidentally shot myself in the crotch. Oh man, am I ever glad I didn't have a 45.
--Keep Smilin', Dr. R.V. Shrink

11 comments:

Travelwithwhippets said...

Glad you said what you said. Wish more people felt the same way.

Anonymous said...

So if a 45 won't stop a bear what caliber do you suggest?

theoldman said...

Dear God , Plase don't let me die wishing I had a gun.

Anonymous said...

Semper Fi, from one Marine to another. You are right on with your answer. No guns, use spray.
OOOOH wah

Unknown said...

I'm a lifelong firearms enthusiast, and pretty well-trained and experienced. Therefore, I like having the option to carry. That said, I don't. I don't travel with firearms because of the varying state laws, and I don't carry because I don't want to tote my 375 H&H 10-pound Winchester model 70 with me, the only firearm I own that I consider adequate to dispatch a bear.

I too carry bear spray, and I've read the instructions and practiced using it (fearsome blast compared to the teensie little self-protection things we carry on our bicycle rides for dog deterrence).

BTW - - I like bears, don't really want to make one of them dead just because I wandered through his back yard. Saw a video of a big Alaskan Brown getting sprayed - - WOW did he hate that!!! But he was alive and unharmed, as was the man who sprayed him. That's an overall win.

Anonymous said...

I for one am glad the NPS allows the right to carry firearms in National Parks with bears, mountain lions, etc. If a 45 pistol can't stop a bear (as you so eloquently put it), I wouldn't want to be carrying a can of pepper spray since I think bears and mountain lions like a little hot sauce on their human meals.

Anonymous said...

My trusty .380 Walther would make a bear really mad unless I made the perfect shot. The likelyhood of me (an experienced good shot) making that shot when faced with a 30 mph charging bear is very slim. I will stick with my "Raid can sized" Canadian bear spray. The bear and I will both be better off.

Anonymous said...

I believe in the right to bear arms and also believe in gun control. When dealing with people, you never know what will be done. They not only defend themselves against bears, but those dangerous varmits like squirrels, rabbits, trees, signs, or anything else that moves or not.I don't want to be shot again by accident. Even the NYPD shot 9 bystanders while trying to take down 1 suspect. Oh, and if you shoot a griz, he may die, but after he gets his last meal!

Anonymous said...

Has anyone heard of a handgun carrier shooting an animal? I doubt anyone here can dig up many, or even one example. It is a silly thing to worry about. It is the human element that concealed carriers want protection from. By the way, if you live in a state that allows concealed carry, you are surrounded by thousands of carriers who cause no problem at all. You never know who is carrying.

Anonymous said...

I agree with anonymous who posted at 2:15pm. I agree carry spray but shooting a bear in the head with a 45 will dispatch that bear I don't care what you say however I prefer to carry spray and save the 45 for if it's needed. It's not that often we are put in a situation where we need either are we.

The only people who carry that I worry about are the ones who illegally got their weapon, the rest who obeyed the law I have no worries about.

Gun laws insure one thing, the bad guys are the ones with the guns, look at Chicago, the toughest gun laws and the only people packing are the bad guys.

Hasn't worked for Chicago, nor anyplace else for that matter.

Anonymous said...

Dear RV Shrink,
I have been an avid reader, but you have lost me entirely on this one! "I am not anti-gun but I am definitely anti-gun in the National Park backcountry." It appears you are anti-gun, then. "I run into many hikers packin a pop gun (45) that they think will stop a grizzly in his tracks." Really? Just how often do you bump into these folks? "It has become a problem for the Park Service also. Front country rangers are well-trained in law enforcement. Now it is becoming necessary for the Park Service to train backcountry rangers in the same way, as more hikers are carrying weapons." Got any proof that this is a problem? I am no longer an avid reader, but a skeptical one.